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[harley56]

Yes, as once it has 7500 miles on it California no longer considers it new and used vehicles, California compliant, or not, can be brought into the state. However, a used car will need to meet the emissions requirements of the market it was built for, in this case it would be Federal emission standards.

[wazana9050]

That is awesome info - thank you

[93Cobra#2771]

I know living in CA is probably awesome and such, but holy crap they have a lot of insanity when it comes to just about anything in that state. The gun laws alone would keep me from living there.

LOL

[lukewood2]

I know living in CA is probably awesome and such, but holy crap they have a lot of insanity when it comes to just about anything in that state. The gun laws alone would keep me from living there.

LOL

Besides the weather this place sucks haha

[Mike S.]

What is the actual difference between CA emissions and federal? I've never heard of specifically different equipment; cats, plumbing, computer, etc.

[Z282SLO]

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California's emissions standards are stricter than the federal EPA requirements for hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions -- which become smog -- from vehicles. The CA standards have changed over the years and the ways that each manufacturer meets the stricter standards varies. Certain cars have different engine components (e.g. intake manifolds or fuel injectors), others have different engine control programming, others simply have EGR added to "clean up" the exhaust.

I am not sure what Ford specifically did in '93 to meet CA emissions for the 302 V8 used in the Mustang.

[93Cobra#2771]

^^^

California's emissions standards are stricter than the federal EPA requirements for hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions -- which become smog -- from vehicles. The CA standards have changed over the years and the ways that each manufacturer meets the stricter standards varies. Certain cars have different engine components (e.g. intake manifolds or fuel injectors), others have different engine control programming, others simply have EGR added to "clean up" the exhaust.

I am not sure what Ford specifically did in '93 to meet CA emissions for the 302 V8 used in the Mustang.

From the research I've done, nothing. Nothing unique in the EEC. Nothing unique in motor or exhaust. For all intents and purposes, the "CA emissions" cars were the same as any other 49 state car.

In fact, I'm not sure I've seen a window sticker for a 93 with "CA emissions" on it. I'll have to check my collection and see. Same for the "high altitude principal use" cars. Nothing different on them either. At least on 93 and up cars.

[Z282SLO]

From the research I've done, nothing. Nothing unique in the EEC. Nothing unique in motor or exhaust. For all intents and purposes, the "CA emissions" cars were the same as any other 49 state car.

Parts lists for EGR valves, vacuum regulators, oxygen sensor assemblies, etc. for '93 Mustangs show specs indicating "excl CA" or similar language for these parts. This leads me to believe there was a difference in the EGR systems of "49-state" Mustangs and "CA" Mustangs. Also, if there was a difference in the emissions of the '93 Mustangs originally sold in CA as opposed to the rest of the U.S., the underhood emissions labels will show it.

Can anyone on this site with a Cobra originally sold in CA post a close-up picture of their emissions label (the label on the coil cover), and can anyone else with a Cobra originally sold elsewhere do the same?

[93Cobra#2771]

From the research I've done, nothing. Nothing unique in the EEC. Nothing unique in motor or exhaust. For all intents and purposes, the "CA emissions" cars were the same as any other 49 state car.

Parts lists for EGR valves, vacuum regulators, oxygen sensor assemblies, etc. for '93 Mustangs show specs indicating "excl CA" or similar language for these parts. This leads me to believe there was a difference in the EGR systems of "49-state" Mustangs and "CA" Mustangs. Also, if there was a difference in the emissions of the '93 Mustangs originally sold in CA as opposed to the rest of the U.S., the underhood emissions labels will show it.

Can anyone on this site with a Cobra originally sold in CA post a close-up picture of their emissions label (the label on the coil cover), and can anyone else with a Cobra originally sold elsewhere do the same?

Will be curious to see that as well. Even though parts are listed that way (I'm assuming aftermarket, not ford?) the "49 states" thing may just be a default for all cars in that era for parts manufactures to cover their hiney.

I am 99.9% sure there were no differences in EGR system and such.

[Z282SLO]

^^^

This should be interesting. Post those pics, fellas.

[Z282SLO]

Hey, Brett. Earlier today, you included the following in your post in the 'For Sale' thread -

Vin# 1facp42d1pf177685
Build# 3993
Born 6/3
CA Emission option

Does your database provide any add'l info on the 'CA Emission option' ?